It seems like Dodge will bring a Dart SRT with AWD, at SEMA

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 10/15/2014 at 15:54 • Filed to: None

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Subaru's reaction:

"Have you heard? The Americans want to challenge our WRX STI, again!!!"

"Really!?"

"Yeah, they even want to replace the Evo, as our eternal nemesis!!!"

"Bwahahahaha, those baka Gaijin never learn! It will be the 80's, all over again."

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 15:58

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Except this time, they have the Italians helping them.

Party-vi > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:03

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How did a 230hp FWD Neon challenge a 300hp AWD rally car?

Rock Bottom > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:03

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I'm sorry Japan, I couldn't hear you over the sound of 'Murica.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Party-vi 10/15/2014 at 16:07

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Dodge said so.

Twism > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:07

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Pretty sure it won't be the SRT AWD monster we are waiting for.
It will be like the Blacktop version they launched last year.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Party-vi 10/15/2014 at 16:12

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Verizon also said the LG Dare challenged the iPhone. Big corporations like to think the consumers will think anything they tell them. This is a Dare btw, falls under modern "feature" or "dumb" phone category.

WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:16

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They need to call it the Dodge Dart GTS. It will be performance oriented, yet still hearken back to the original name.

dinobot666 > Party-vi 10/15/2014 at 16:16

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By having power windows in the front, and manual rollup windows in the back.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Rock Bottom 10/15/2014 at 16:20

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"Bitch please"

Signed, Dr. Wernher Magnus Maximilian, Freiherr von Braun

MultiplaOrgasms > WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe 10/15/2014 at 16:34

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Better call it the Swinger.

ChevyMalibu > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:36

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If the use the AWD system from the 200 and do some fiddling with their NA 2.0l they could probably create quite a competitive car. The Dart's platform is already quite sporty and Chrysler has the entire Fiat group with them. If the Dart SRT gives comparable or even slightly less performance but costs significantly less I can see it selling well. At the very least it will probably look better.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Twism 10/15/2014 at 16:36

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Yeah, I highly doubt this thing is going to live up what internet speculation has built it up to be. If it does, I will be very impressed and may actually consider buying one in a few years. I already like the look of the Dart, I'm just not impressed with the performance.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:37

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I'm sorry, but what does it say on the side of the models on his desk?

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > ChevyMalibu 10/15/2014 at 16:41

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Well, Subaru does this shit for 30 years, pretty hard to beat that.

ChevyMalibu > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/15/2014 at 16:49

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They don't have to beat it. Just benchmark performance in a nicer package and for a cheaper price. Look at what Cadillac did; coming from nothing to offering sexy sports sedans that cost less than the comparable BMW and suddenly being taken seriously in the market.

Twism > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 10/15/2014 at 17:10

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The SRT has the potential to be truly awesome, if they don't F*** it up (Caliber SRT4, anyone?). The Dart could really use a performance version, it would help drive sales of the lower-tier up.

It worked amazingly well for the Lancer (how many kids bought Lancer SE just because they saw the EVO in every videogame and rally events they saw?)

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Twism 10/15/2014 at 17:23

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Yeah, unfortunately I'm afraid that is a pretty big "if." We shall see though.

Twism > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow 10/15/2014 at 17:24

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With Sergio and Fiat leading the show instead of those leeches at Cerberus, I dare to hope.

vdub_nut: scooter snob > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 10/15/2014 at 17:45

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Hard to read, but I think it says

Eigentum von interplanetaren Deutsch Marines. Wenn sie verloren gehen, kehren Sie bitte

But then it tails off a bit towards the end.

DanZman > Rock Bottom 10/15/2014 at 18:22

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that moon landing map is the shit!

DanZman > ChevyMalibu 10/15/2014 at 18:41

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I think you should go check out Cadillac's prices again

Motordude90 > DanZman 10/15/2014 at 19:50

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Should be fixed to countries that have put people on the moon, but because MURICA!!!!!!

ChevyMalibu > DanZman 10/15/2014 at 20:14

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I see $5-6k in savings over the comparable 5-series for the CTS and XTS before options. Ya the savings are only about a grand on the ATS vs. 3-series but the 3-series sells in volumes that allow them to lower the price to compete effectively without too much loss in profit. My point was more about how Cadillac started with land-barges no one wanted and suddenly became a player in their segment. The Dart and Fiat group are starting with a lot more than Cadillac had in their arsenal.

Rock Bottom > DanZman 10/16/2014 at 08:11

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There's a similar one floating around where the gray countries are labeled "Countries that use the Metric System"

Rock Bottom > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 10/16/2014 at 08:12

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Rock Bottom > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/16/2014 at 08:12

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"Doctor Paperclip. Paging doctor Paperclip."

DanZman > Rock Bottom 10/16/2014 at 18:45

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there is actually one other very small country that uses imperial units too...

now that I think of it... "name a country that uses the metric system that has put people on the moon" is a pretty good way to start a BS argument LOL